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VF-8 Logan
A variable fighter-bomber used by the Tactical Armored Space Corps (TASC), to which Ensign Marie, one of the heroines, belongs, until episode 11. With a total length of just over 6 meters, it is small and simple for this type of aircraft. Depending on the situation
A fighter-bomber form with a lifting body shape.
The "GERWALK/Guardian" form, which is a form of half-man, half-bird.
The "GERWALK/Guardian" form is a half-man, half-bird form.
However, although the "GERWALK/Guardian" form of this aircraft is winged, its characteristics are similar to the humanoid (battroid) form, as its knees are upright rather than reverse-jointed. This is because the aircraft's fuselage is extremely small, even for an aircraft, with a length of about 6.3 meters, so it has the three general "forms" of variable fighters ( VERITECH fighters ): the aircraft form for cruising, the reverse-jointed "GERWALK/Guardian" form for ground attack, and the humanoid (battroid) form for close quarters and combat.

The "three form" transformation mechanism could not be incorporated into a small aircraft, so the function of mutual transformation transition between only two forms was chosen by adding the function of humanoid (battroid) form to the"GERWALK/Guardian" form.

(española) Un cazabombardero variable utilizado por el Cuerpo Espacial Táctico Blindado (TASC), al que pertenece la alférez Marie, una de las heroínas, hasta el episodio 11. Con una longitud total de poco más de 6 metros, es pequeño y sencillo para este tipo de aviones. Según la situación
Una forma de caza-bombardero con forma de carrocería elevable.
La forma "GERWALK/Guardián", que es una forma mitad hombre, mitad pájaro.
La forma "GERWALK/Guardián" es una forma mitad hombre, mitad pájaro.
Sin embargo, aunque la forma "GERWALK/Guardián" de esta aeronave es alada, sus características son similares a las de la forma humanoide (battroide), ya que sus rodillas están erguidas en lugar de estar articuladas al revés. Esto se debe a que el fuselaje de la aeronave es extremadamente pequeño, incluso para un avión, con una longitud de unos 6,3 metros, por lo que tiene las tres "formas" generales de los cazas variables (cazas VERITECH): la forma de aeronave para el vuelo de crucero, la forma "GERWALK/Guardián" con articulación inversa para el ataque a tierra, y la forma humanoide (battroide) para el combate cuerpo a cuerpo.

El mecanismo de transformación de "tres formas" no podía incorporarse a un avión pequeño, por lo que se optó por la función de transición de transformación mutua entre sólo dos formas, añadiendo la función de forma humanoide (battroide) a la forma "GERWALK/Guardián".

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    (Quote): I have a pet theory that the whole cockpit of the Logan can detach, like the Valkyrie. Make a lot better life-saving boat to have a air supply as well as shielding against vacuum and unfiltered sunlight.
    I have no evidence of this, aside from the previous example and it looks like it can detach. But it makes a certain amount of sense.

    Jason Lang Okay, I understood.

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    My mother 's grandfather could not escape from the aircraft crashed with the engine trouble fly over the Fukuoka prefecture in the north of KYUSHU , (Kyushu is southernmost of the four main islands of Japan) the civilian rescue worker destroyed the canopy frame with an ax, but later died at the hospital due to burn injuries.
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    He working at the model gun corporation L&S.
    He offered to gift 2 piece(*) of design art for me.
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    As for the ion pulse gun which barrel of tri-cannons equipped at a battery, VF-8 Logan must be her retracted gun when Atmospheric entry. These guns became big air resistance, were very vulnerable to aerodynamic heating, and caused it the Dynamic aeroelasticity flutter.

    Another cancelled design has been enlarged to make room for the prolonged nose area which be able to retractable triple gun barrel guns and nose gear housing.


    But I lost precious design art when I move to OKINAWA in 1998 !
    I had lost an original design, but I tried to restore its design to depend on a memory.
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    I restored only one design which is aircraft fighter form of two in this way.

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    All measurements are approximate figures.
    Tests were performed with 2 Pythons mounted externally with a centerline mounted E-20 at 16,051 lbs--standard weapons load. The closest airport temperature was 11 deg C and 29.92 in Hg.
    Class: 2nd Generation Veritech/Variable Aerospace Multi-Role Fighter
    Service: EFS (in small numbers), TASC , CDFC, TAF (in small numbers), EFM, EFAF
    Height (on gear): 11.39 ft. (-1.11 deg)
    Length: 23.4 ft.
    Wingspan: 26.18 ft.
    Aspect ratio: 4.55
    Cruise L/D (35,000 ft, 0.80 Mach)6.5:1
    (L/D is a mark of subsonic aerodynamic efficiency.)
    Weight (empty): 14,500 lbs
    Weight (combat, typical): 16,051 lbs [2 Pythons, 1 E-20]
    Weight (maximum): 18,500 lbs
    Weight (typical D20, 50% fuel): 250 lbs
    Engines (atmosphere): 52,000 lbs [overboost, 200%], 26,000 lbs [military, 100%]
    Engines (atmosphere with auxillary): 74,000 [overboost, 200%], 48,000 [military, 100%]
    Engines (space): 74,000 lbs
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    Max Speed (1,000 ft. AGL, overboost): 650 KIAS
    Max Speed (10,000 ft. AGL, overboost): Mach 1.03+
    Max Speed (30,000 ft. AGL, overboost): Mach 1.4+
    Maximum Service Ceiling: < 50,000 ft.
    Speed (1,000 ft. AGL, military): 650 KIAS
    Speed (10,000 ft. AGL, military): Mach 1.00
    Speed (30,000 ft. AGL, military): Mach 1.00+
    Take Off Speed (military): 110 knots
    Vunstick: 135 knots
    General Landing Approach: 155 knots, 9 deg AOA
    Stall Speed (generalized): 120 knots, 17.5 deg AOA
    Time to Atmospheric Ceiling
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    Climb Rate
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    • The following is representative of the final performance of the airframe with full consideration of a humanoid operator. Turn rates listed here may not be the absolute best for the Logan but are used as a basis for comparison against the Valkyrie.
    FBW Instantaneous G-Load (350 knots, 10,000 ft. AGL): 7.5 G
    FBW Maximum Roll-Rate (350knots, 10,000 ft. AGL): 300 deg/sec
    FBW Maximum Roll-Rate (550knots, 10,000 ft. AGL): 300 deg/sec
    FBW Best Instantaneous Turn Rate 180 deg turn (500 KIAS, 1,000 ft AGL, military: max 10.0 G, ~26.5 deg/s
    FBW Best Sustained Turn-Rate 360 deg turn (400 KIAS, 1,000 ft AGL, military): 9.5 G, ~24 deg/s
    FBW Best Instantaneous Turn Rate 180 deg turn (400 KIAS, 10,000 ft AGL, military): max 9.0 G, ~ 25.7 deg/s
    FBW Best Sustained Turn-Rate 360 deg turn (400 KIAS, 10,000 ft AGL, military): 8.5 G, ~21.6 deg/s
    FBW Best Instantaneous Turn Rate 180 deg turn (400 KIAS, 30,000 ft AGL, military): max 8.0 G, ~ 17.5 deg/s
    FBW Best Sustained Turn-Rate 360 deg turn (400 KIAS, 30,000 ft AGL, military): 5.5 G, ~10 deg/s
    Maximum Controllable AOA: +25degw-15deg
    Structural G-Limit: +12.5 G/-6.0 G
    FBW G-Limit: +10.5 G/- 4.5 G
    • Flying Controls: The Logan has a redundant fly by light control system. The dogtoothed (vortex generator for higher AOA) main wing is a two section flap and aileron (aileron out board, flapervators in board) with spoiler/speedbrake that occupies the entire trailing edge with full leading edge slats.

    Assorted vernier thrusters assist in pitch and roll control in atmosphere.
    This aircraft features a two segment modified Pelican tail.
    The inner portion is all moving on a hinge, which moves with trim, and features a conventional elevator while the top portion is an all moving tail to control yaw. Outboard of the main wing also has drag rudders to assist in yaw control.

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